Trans Surveillance at DHS
TransLash Podcast with Imara Jones
TransLash Media
4.3 • 619 Ratings
🗓️ 18 September 2025
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Summary
The Department of Homeland Security has quietly rolled back policies that limited surveillance based on gender identity and sexual orientation, raising urgent questions about privacy and government overreach. In this episode, Imara unpacks the history, legal implications, and potential consequences of this shift. First she speaks with legal historian Kate Redburn, who traces the changes in government surveillance of queer communities since World War II. Then, René Kladzyk, senior investigator at the Project on Government Oversight, breaks down how these changes affect current intelligence and enforcement practices and what they could mean for immigrant and LGBTQ+ communities targeted under these policies.
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TransLash Podcast is produced by TransLash Media.
The Translash team includes Imara Jones, Oliver-Ash Kleine, Aubrey Calaway, Hillary Esquina, and Morgan Astbury.
Lucy Little did the sound editing and engineering for this episode.
Theme music composed by Ben Draghi.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there, it's me, Amara. Welcome to the TransLash podcast, a show where we tell |
| 0:12.8 | trans stories to save trans lives. Well, at a time when surveillance is expanding and our |
| 0:18.2 | rights are under attack, concerns about protecting the privacy of queer |
| 0:22.3 | and trans people has never been more urgent, especially in the wake of the assassination of Charlie |
| 0:27.8 | Kirk, where the government has promised a crackdown on the so-called left. That's why the Department |
| 0:34.1 | of Homeland Security's recent decision to strip away the restriction |
| 0:38.3 | of government surveillance solely based on gender and sexuality is so alarming. |
| 0:43.6 | And it raises critical questions about how the federal government's digital monitoring |
| 0:48.2 | resources could be easily weaponized against the entire queer community. |
| 0:53.8 | That is why in this episode we're going to dig |
| 0:56.3 | into just how we got here, as well as what's at stake in this historic shift. First, I talk with |
| 1:03.4 | Kate Redburn, a legal historian who helps us understand how the rollback of these safeguards |
| 1:09.3 | fits into a much longer story of government control. |
| 1:13.6 | I think, you know, one way to think about the history of surveillance is that the flip side is always demands for visibility in order to obtain the kinds of social provision that people need to live their lives. |
| 1:22.6 | Then I speak with Renee Clayditch, senior investigator at the Project on Government Oversight about how this policy change could actually play out. |
| 1:32.1 | Fear is a key tool, like the knowledge that you could be being watched and how it changes behavior, has a profound effect on a much larger number of people than the actual person who's subjected to the Enforcement Act. |
| 1:45.0 | But before we get into all of this, let's start out as always with some trans joy. |
| 2:11.5 | Thank you. Some journeys test endurance and others make history. |
| 2:19.3 | Taylin Stolting is doing both as the first openly trans person to row across an ocean. Alongside their team or the Rainbow, Taylan took on a 2,800-mile race across the Pacific, |
| 2:26.3 | from Monterey Bay to Kauai this summer. |
| 2:30.3 | They did all of this while also raising funds for groups like Doctors Without Borders, an athlete ally. |
| 2:36.1 | And Taylin just isn't a record-breaking power rower. |
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