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Unholier Than Thou

Trans People are Sacred

Unholier Than Thou

Unholier Than Thou

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.7903 Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2020

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Transgender people are currently fighting for their lives against an administration and a religious right that seems hellbent on denying their existence and equality. For many leaders of the movement, this is irony at its finest, because transgender people were once considered sacred in many pre-colonized societies. This week, we talk to advocate and model Geena Rocero about the gender non-conforming spiritual history of the Philippines to illustrate how trans people were once accepted and revered. Then, we catch up with the activist Raquel Willis about how she harnesses ancestral power in the Movement for Black Trans Lives.



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0:00.0

From Cricket media, this isn't holier than now. I'm your host Philip Picardy.

0:17.0

You could be forgiven for believing an assumption that's taken hold in the mainstream.

0:24.1

That transgender people are quote a new phenomenon.

0:28.3

After all, it's only been recently that society even somewhat allowed for transgender people to be front and center.

0:34.6

There was the groundbreaking role played by Laverin Cox on Orange as the New Black, or the ballroom scenes

0:39.7

depicted on pose.

0:41.6

There were the seminal books and the famous speech at the Women's March

0:44.2

by the activist, writer, and director Janet Mock. During that speech she called the

0:48.9

nation to stand up for trans rights. So we are here, we are here not merely to gather but to move, right?

0:58.0

And our movements require us to do more than just show up and say the right words. It requires us to

1:06.3

break out of our comfort zones and be confrontational. It requires us to defend one another.

1:15.8

Then there's the work of Twormeline,

1:17.3

an earlier guest on this very podcast,

1:19.4

who uplifted the life and work of Marsha P Johnson,

1:22.2

a stonewall legend.

1:24.2

And there have been the many ongoing arduous legal battles and protests demanding equal rights

1:28.8

for trans people, a fight that has met a formidable and hateful opponent in the Trump administration,

1:34.0

and its conservative Christian base.

1:36.9

Perhaps this wave of representation and activism has caused you too

1:41.0

to believe that transgender folks have just arrived or that their movement is new to the LGBTQ community.

1:47.0

But of course, you would be wrong.

1:50.0

In fact, once upon a time in a world before Christ, before Christianity, before colonization,

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