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Conversations That Matter

Trans-Normalization in Evangelical Circles Begins

Conversations That Matter

Jon Harris

Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2023

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Jon discusses the recent disclosure of Aiden ("Audrey") Hale's manifesto, Max Lucado speaking with Preston Sprinkle, Derek Webb's Dove Awards cross-dressing, Zach Lambert crediting DTS professor Sandra L. Glahn with helping him transcend gender distinctions when it comes to holiness, 'Bubba' Copeland's suicide, and if there's time, the blowback against Mike Johnson for limiting pornography exposure, among other things.


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00:00:00 Audrey Hale Manifesto

00:12:46 ERLC Reaction to Hale Shooting

00:24:07 Max Lucado

00:30:11 Derek Webb

00:31:57 Zach Lambert

00:34:26 Dallas Theological

00:40:15 Bubba Copeland

00:45:37 Mike Johnson

01:12:42 Tiny Bibles



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0:00.0

We are live now on the Conversations That Matter Podcast. Wow, I was not expecting to talk about what I'm going to start talking about this morning, but it fits in with some of the other things that I had planned.

0:17.0

So we're going to start off with the breaking news right now, which is what's essentially happened in the development of the

0:27.1

Nashville shooting. We have an article here this is from Louder with Crowder and I saw on Rumble when he put this out there if you want to see some

0:36.3

analysis and Stephen Crowder reading this but this is the Nashville shooter. The name is often Audrey Hale, but Aidan Hale, I believe is the birth name,

0:48.8

but Transgender Shooter, Shooter identified as trans.

0:56.4

And this is hot off the press.

1:00.6

The title of the article is,

1:02.3

we have obtained exclusive access

1:04.0

to the Nashville Covenant Shooters Manifestos.

1:07.3

Many of you remember,

1:10.1

Aid and Hale shot students and teachers at a covenant school in Nashville, which is actually right across from the street from a place I spoke in I think 2021 and the ERLC's actually president Brett Leatherwood

1:29.3

his I don't know if it's son or daughter but one of his kids goes to this school at least one of them.

1:36.4

So there are some connections to the Southern Baptist and I'm going to talk about that a little bit

1:42.2

as we get into this and just remind everyone about what the Southern Baptist did in reaction to this and whether or not you think that was the right call given what we know now.

1:52.0

But here are some screenshots of the actual

1:57.4

manifesto. So you have first it says death day is the heading of this particular article and then it goes

2:07.8

through the some of the thoughts of the shooter before they committed the action.

2:15.8

And I'm noticing that there's some ads here.

2:18.3

Hopefully I can take care of those.

2:19.9

I hate these, it's Crowder's website and I understand he's got to monetize but I don't like it when the

2:26.6

ads are like that. Anyway, so here's the manifesto itself a screenshot of it at least the first page and it says

2:39.4

this is the day the day has finally come this is on the 27th of March earlier this year. I can't believe it's here.

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