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Trans Liberation and Solidarity with Alyson Escalante

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Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.92.1K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2023

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Our transgender comrades are under attack — not just by incendiary reactionaries on the right, but also by many of those on the more liberal or even left side of the political spectrum. The attacks come in many forms, from outright violence, to genocidal language, to the often arbitrary and reactionary demarcations around what constitutes "womanhood," to the "just asking questions" industrial complex led by liberal institutions like the New York Times. 

In this episode, we explore a robust rebuttal to anti-trans and transphobic narratives and actions — from an explicitly Marxist perspective. And we've brought on the perfect guest to lead us in this. 

Alsyon Escalante is the co-host of Red Menace — a podcast that explains and analyzes revolutionary theory and then applies its lessons to our contemporary conditions. The conversation we're going to have is inspired by a cross-over episode of Red Menace and Revolutionary Left Radio titled, "Our Transgender Comrades: Dialectical Materialism, Marxist Feminism, and Trans Liberation.

The first half of our conversation with Alyson focuses on that episode and lays out a theoretical rebuttal of liberal, bourgeois, and radical feminist approaches to feminism and gender. We lay out a principled Marxist, materialist analysis of gender and 'womanhood' and how they differ from post-modern and idealist conceptions. 

The second half of our conversation brings the discussion back down to eye-level, and explores the current political, social, and economic realities faced by trans people and why it's more important than ever for us to stand in solidarity with our transgender comrades and to fight against the reactionary right and their liberal accomplices.

Thank you to Against Me! for the intermission music and to Carolyn Raider for the cover art. Upstream theme music was composed by Robert Raymond.

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Editor's note: 

A member-organizer with the Freelance Solidarity Project (the digital media division of the National Writers Union) and one of the co-authors of the NYT contributors' letter wrote in with a small correction: "I wanted to flag that the initial labor support for the letter came from Freelance Solidarity Project members—the Writers Guild is great and members signed their own letter in support of trans people as part of a broader solidarity effort. The NYT staff are also represented by The NewsGuild of New York—the letter defending signing as protected activity was by NewsGuild of NY President Susan DeCarava."

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Oh,

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oh,

1:04.5

oh,

1:15.8

in reality, whether we like it or not, there is a open debate within our society

1:20.8

about whether or not transgender people ought to be able to exist in public

1:24.5

as members of society, right?

1:26.5

And I agree that normatively, that shouldn't be a question,

1:29.3

but it is a question that we're facing.

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