Hello and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop. I'm your host

Joe Pug. Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep, on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music. So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

hitting the elliptical to lose those 25 pounds for your reunion tour, or else a scrappy upstart,

putting a hard-boiled egg in your ramen and pretending it's what you actually wanted to eat

anyway. This is your show, because ultimately it's what you actually wanted to eat anyway.

This is your show, because ultimately it is what every writer seeks most,

an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey guys, it's the last Friday of May 2018.

I thank you for joining us. I had a great time on the road last month everywhere I played in Texas, my first time back in Texas in about a year,

and then pretty deep inside Wisconsin, made it all the way to spring green, Wisconsin, deeper

in Wisconsin than I ever planned on getting.

It was such small town Wisconsin that we went out to a bar after the show and we were kind of being

trailed by a cop and I was like, man, I hope the driver of this car is sober.

But the cop wasn't following us to pull us over.

He was also going to the bar.

And he just came into the bar and hung out.

So that's how it goes in deep rural Wisconsin, you guys.

I had a great time there.

I'm going to be playing some shows in the coming

months as well, and here's where I'll be. If I'm coming near your neighborhood, come out and say

hello. Next Friday, June 1st, I'll be in Columbia, Maryland at a brand new venue called the

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