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On today's episode, episode number 19 entitled Training a UFC Champ, we chat with legendary UFC trainer John Hackleman.

John, thanks so much for coming on our show today, man.

Hey, no problem, man.

All right.

Let's just jump right into it.

And can you tell our listeners a little about your background

and how you became this world famous trainer that you are today?

Started when I was young, 10 years old in martial arts, Honolulu, Hawaii, and started

martial arts because, yeah, it's a pretty tough place, and I decided I should to protect myself.

So at 10 years old, I started martial arts arts and I don't know. I don't think

I fell in love with it as much as I just, it just became part of me. And that's kind of just all I've

ever done for the rest of my life, really. I mean, I've done jobs on the side, I've joined the army,

but I've always, I've always considered myself a martial artist first.

So I just started, you know, when I, I've always been training, and then, then I just kind of

started training people and helping people train.

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