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Bad Gays

TRAILER: Extra Bad Gays October 2025

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

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4.6842 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Subscribe on Apple Podcasts or Patreon for the full episode. It's Extra Bad Gays LIVE! from Helsinki, where we discuss Donald Trump–our first straggot President–and his pardoning of George Santos. Then, Ben plugs an upcoming queer leftist novella you'll probably love, freshly translated into English. And two questions from gay guys in their forties invite the Gaggony Guncles to reflect on sex, desire, and the number homophobia has done on our psyches. Cruise carefully, catamites! Smalltownnovella: https://uglyducklingpresse.org/product/smalltownnovella/

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0:00.0

But I think there is European distribution, so you should be able to get it wherever you can listen to us.

0:05.0

And you should ask your local bookshop to stock it for you if they don't have it because it's really good.

0:11.0

And the themes of that are sort of him coming, you know, he's sort of becoming aware of his sexuality and is conservative society.

0:17.0

Yeah, it's a story of a boy, it's a very, no, it's a, it's a story of like a, a week or so

0:23.0

in the life of an 18-year-old gay kid at a gymnasium in this provincial town who falls in

0:31.7

love with another boy and they have a kind of affair. The boy's name, by the way, because it was

0:36.9

1979, is Laif Garrett. Leif Garrett? Leif Garrett, the singer. Oh my God,

0:43.4

Leif Garrett was like a pillow-y-lipped twink sort of singer, rock singer. And so he

0:48.2

names the boy Leif Garrett, obviously, some kid who just looks like Lef Garrett,

0:50.9

whatever. And then the school authorities find out about this, and there's a kind of, like, disciplinary,

0:57.7

and the parents of the other boy find out about this, and the other boy's parents are very

1:01.3

sort of well-placed bourgeois, and there's this kind of disciplinary process, and at the end,

1:07.0

the narrator moves to West Berlin, but kind of learns about how all of this works.

1:11.0

And it's full of extremely trenchant observations about masculinity and Germany and being a gay

1:17.6

guy and what that means. And I think the politics of the book are really smart. It's also just

1:21.9

a really great read. So if the West Germans and size were so conservative time, how come he became so successful?

1:29.3

Because the book was published exactly at the right time.

1:32.3

Like the book came out in 1979, which was seven years after the Rosa Frum Prowdenheim film,

1:40.3

it's not the homosexual who's perverse but the society in which he lives.

1:43.3

That's now a few

1:44.8

years into the existence of gay liberation groupings in cities like West Berlin and Cologne.

1:49.8

And so there was kind of a little bit of a market for it. Like everything was, and it was also,

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