This is a bit, Ben, when you have to put on the jingle bells over their top.

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For the listener at home, Ben is appalled and distressed by my attempts at seasonality. But it is the 23rd of

December, and this is this December's episode of Extra Bad Gaze. Thank you so much for joining us.

Are you in the Christmas spirit? I'm feeling, I would say, moderately festive. I would say

I'm festive light.

There's been some difficulty.

I don't really know if you're a particular Christmassy person or not.

You're definitely a feasting person, right?

Oh, Hugh. Stop calling me a glutton. No, I am a very Christmassy person.

Unfortunately, the kind of, like, emblem of Christmas for me, what Christmas meant every year since I was a child,

like since I was born, was going to my grandparents' house. And unfortunately, my grandmother

passed away last week and the funeral was last weekend. That's obviously cast a pall over. Very

sad to hear about that then. Over the Christmas season, but we're trying to keep up some good cheer

for my grandfather who survived

her and I have some very saintly cousins who are bringing Christmas down from where they live to us.

There's a rumor that my Aunt Joanne is making seven pounds of chicken cutlets and a lasagna and

an eggplant parm. These are the Sicily.

Any women who knows? Yeah. but maybe it's a sort of

blessing in disguise

that you can all be together

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