Hey everyone. Welcome back to National Park After Dark. I'm Cassie. And I'm Danielle. And we have a really special Trail Tales episode edition. I almost said, is it edition? Do we say that now? We have a very special Trail Tales edition today because we have a returning guest and she is one of our favorite people ever.

Yeah. If you were with us for our love worth fighting

for when we talked about public lands and the terminations that were happening in the

national parks and everything about pretty much a year ago at this point, Liz Crandall was with us

then and she is joining us today for a special trail tales episode where we are going to,

we have a ranger theme, but we're also going to be diving into some of the biggest questions

that you all have had about what is going on in our public lands right now.

So before we get started to reintroduce you to Liz Crandall, if you have not heard of her yet, you will today and go check

out our last episode, but she has been called a unicorn by a variety of groups and individuals

within the last year or so. This is due to her diverse career experience in the outdoor industry,

her strong ability to speak up in advocacy, and the fact that

she was illegally fired by Doge last year. Liz is a former U.S. Forest Service field ranger who

patrolled the backcountry for fires, trash dumps, illegal roads, and trail maintenance. After nearly

nine years with the U.S. Forest Service, Liz has seen her fair share of wildfire incidences as a militia firefighter, has cleaned up and hauled out hundreds of thousands of pounds of trash in the forest, and has educated thousands of visitors to leave no trace and protect public lands.

That all changed in February since her unprecedented termination. She has spoken up for

Rangers and Public Lands all over 30 news networks and multiple podcasts, including hours,

and was even invited to be the honored guest of an Oregon representative to the State of the

Union in Washington, D.C. last March. She has been flown to D.C. three times to speak to Congress about protecting national parks,

forests, and conservation lands. fully embracing her new role as a public lands advocate,

Liz now works for Conservation Lands Foundation and is the independent host of Rangers of the Lost

Park podcast. The podcast is her absolute passion

and is a vessel to teach listeners about issues impacting parks, water, and wildlife. Most

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