Tragedies Old and New
City Journal Audio
Manhattan Institute
4.7 • 657 Ratings
🗓️ 11 September 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
John Tierney, Nicole Gelinas, Park MacDougald, and Isabella Redjai pay tribute to Charlie Kirk, assassinated as he gave a talk on a college campus. Kirk was murdered the day before the nation marked the 24th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. We share personal memories of that day, examine the city's response, and discuss how the attacks reshaped American politics and culture. The conversation ends with a look at the day's enduring lessons and prospects for American unity.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the City Journal podcast. My name is Isabella Red Jai. And if you're not already |
| 0:14.9 | subscribed to our channel, please be sure to subscribe so you don't miss out on future conversations. |
| 0:19.7 | Today, I'm joined by three incredible New York |
| 0:21.5 | City writers that have been writing about the city and other affairs for a very long time. |
| 0:26.1 | First, City Journal contributing editor John Tierney. Also, Manhattan Institute's expert on urban |
| 0:31.8 | policy and politics and New York Times contributing editor, Nicole Jelineas. And then finally, Manhattan Institute, |
| 0:39.4 | fellow and senior writer at the scroll, excellent newsletter from Tablet Magazine, Park McDougold. |
| 0:46.1 | Thank you to the three of you for joining today. I must briefly say I know we're here to |
| 0:50.2 | reflect on some heavier topics today, but it's truly an honor to have you all on today's |
| 0:54.6 | panels. So I would be remiss not to mention something that just happened yesterday. The conservative |
| 1:00.3 | commentator and American Patriot Charlie Kirk was shot and tragically murdered at Utah Valley |
| 1:06.5 | University while healthily debating college students, it's really a loss for not only his family, |
| 1:13.9 | but for our country. And I think that it says something about the growing political violence |
| 1:18.6 | in our country. So we'll be talking more about that here at City Journal and here on this podcast |
| 1:23.9 | in the coming days as we learn more details, but we just wanted to send our prayers |
| 1:28.4 | and condolences to his family. Any of you, do you have any thoughts on yesterday's tragedy really |
| 1:34.7 | quickly? Just that I know that there are a lot of people and particularly younger people who |
| 1:42.2 | really followed Charlie carefully and took a lot of heart and what he said and what he wrote. |
| 1:50.7 | And, you know, even my husband, who's not a younger person, you know, followed some of his videos and so forth and was also very, very upset about this. |
| 1:58.5 | So a lot of people are hurting today and feeling like they lost |
| 2:03.1 | somebody whom they knew. Yes, absolutely. And today's September 11th. So, you know, we're also |
| 2:12.8 | discussing very heavy loss. Twenty-four years ago, today, four-coordinated Islamist terrorist attacks by al-Qaeda struck the Twin Towers |
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