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Trader Warns of 'Pandemonium' if Bitcoin Breaks This Critical Price Level

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4.7698 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Outlook on bitcoin, and the impact of the government shutdown and President Trump's potential tariff 'dividend' on the markets with TheoTrade Co-Founder Don Kaufman. In today's Markets Outlook, TheoTrade co-founder Don Kaufman joins CoinDesk's Jennifer Sanasie to break down crypto markets, sharing insights on a shift in bitcoin's behavior and warning of a major risk hanging over its price. Plus, he discusses what a government shutdown means for traders and why he believes that despite providing a short-term positive for altcoins, President Trump's potential tariff 'dividend' could pour fuel on the inflation fire. - Break the cycle of exploitation. Break down the barriers to truth. Break into the next generation of privacy. Break Free. Free to scroll without being monetized. Free from censorship. Freedom without fear. We deserve more when it comes to privacy. Experience the next generation of blockchain that is private and inclusive by design. Break free with Midnight, visit midnight.network/break-free - Bridge simplifies global money movement. As the leading stablecoin issuance and orchestration platform, Bridge abstracts away blockchain complexity so businesses can seamlessly move between fiat and stablecoins. From payroll providers and remittance companies to neobanks and treasury teams, Bridge powers payments, savings, and stablecoin issuance for thousands – like Shopify, Metamask, Remitly, and more. URL: ⁠⁠⁠https://hubs.ly/Q03KGbRK0⁠⁠⁠ - This episode was hosted by Jennifer Sanasie.

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0:00.0

Let's start on the fact that, yeah, this would actually be a positive for crypto.

0:04.2

There's no question about it.

0:05.9

Where the negative comes in, I mean, this is just pouring fuel on an inflation fire.

0:11.4

I mean, what causes inflation over here?

0:13.4

Oh, maybe tariffs, if not tariffs, let's actually hand everybody cash.

0:22.8

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0:26.8

generation of privacy, break free.

0:29.1

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0:33.5

We deserve more when it comes to privacy.

0:35.6

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0:40.1

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0:44.4

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0:50.5

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1:02.3

Hey, everyone, this is your market's outlook on CoinDesk. I'm Jen Sanassi. On today's episode, we are joined by Theo Trade co-founder, Don Kaufman. Hey, Don. Hey, how you doing? Thanks for having me on.

1:12.6

I'm doing well. Thank you. Thanks for being with us. Now, there's a lot going on. And so let's just start here. Talk to me about the current climate for traders. What are you watching? All right. So right now, what am I really looking at? I mean, the endless, obviously, AI squeezed to the upside, which at this point, I think everybody's kind of aware that it's a bubble. It's a bubble of some type. Those can go on for a lot longer than anybody anticipated. But when it comes to more of the crypto marketplace, what I'm actually watching right now may surprise a lot of people. I'm looking at

1:44.8

gold and it's outperformance. I mean, it's just been stellar. For those that have been around for

1:50.6

while, we've termed crypto, you know, like the digital gold. And you just, you have to wonder

1:55.7

where it is and why it isn't the player that gold has actually been on a year-to-date basis.

2:02.0

I mean, I can make an argument, all right, you got me. Bitcoin has ripped in the last

2:06.4

couple of trading sessions, but it still pales in comparison right now. It's about half the

2:11.4

return on a year-to-date basis that gold is seeing. Gold, of course, outperforming the S&P 500. And you just mentioned Bitcoin that is

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