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On Being with Krista Tippett

Tracy K. Smith and Michael Kleber-Diggs — ‘History is upon us... its hand against our back.’

On Being with Krista Tippett

On Being Studios

Society, Spirituality, Society & Culture, Sociology, Culture, Science, Religion & Spirituality, Krista Tippett, Social Sciences, On Being, Arts

4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

The pandemic memoirs began almost immediately, and now comes another kind of offering — a searching look at the meaning of the racial catharsis to which the pandemic in some sense gave birth and voice and life. Tracy K. Smith co-edited the stunning book, There’s a Revolution Outside, My Love: Letters from a Crisis, a collection of 40 pieces that span an array of BIPOC voices from Edwidge Danticat to Reginald Dwayne Betts, from Layli Long Soldier to Ross Gay to Julia Alvarez. Tracy and Michael Kleber-Diggs, who also contributed an essay, join Krista for a conversation that is quiet and fierce and wise. They reflect inward and outward, backwards and forwards, from inside the Black experience of this pivotal time to be alive.

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0:00.0

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0:05.6

to explore the deepest and most perplexing questions facing humankind. Learn about the latest

0:11.4

discoveries in the study of hope and optimism, intellectual humility, and free will at Templeton.org.

0:19.5

The pandemic memoirs began almost immediately, but now comes another kind of offering.

0:25.5

A searching look at the meaning and possibilities in the racial catharsis, to which the pandemic

0:32.4

and some sense gave birth and voice and life. Tracy K. Smith co-edited the book,

0:39.2

There's a revolution outside my love letters from a crisis. She joins me together with Michael

0:45.9

Cleaver digs who contributed to that work. It is a reflection inward and outward, backwards and

0:53.0

forwards, primarily of the black experience of 2020 and all that the murder of George Floyd

0:59.2

came to mean. But the 40 voices in this volume span an array of BIPOC lives and perspectives

1:06.4

from Edouille Stuntacott to Reginald Dwayne Betts, from Lely Long Soldier to Rosquet to Julia Alvarez.

1:14.4

This conversation with and between Michael and Tracy is soft and fierce and wise,

1:20.4

and it's a privilege to be part of along with the gift of their writing.

1:26.3

It wasn't that I wanted to let go and sink. It was that it was hard to keep my hat above water

1:31.3

and carry my stone at the same time. I wanted a place to rest. Okay. I wanted to float just for a little

1:42.4

while. Dear Black America, we are many things aren't we? We are hair, God yes we are hair,

1:53.8

and song and memory. We are a language so deep it has no need for words, and we are words that

2:03.6

faint, dart and wheel like birds. Like James Brown, we feel good. Like Fanny Lou Hamer, we are sick

2:13.1

and tired. We are fearsome, we are fire, like God, we are that we are.

2:26.5

I'm Christa Tippett and this is on being. Michael Cleber Diggs teaches creative writing

2:32.1

through the Minnesota Prison Writing Workshop and at colleges and high schools in Minnesota.

2:37.9

He lives as do I in St. Paul and is just publishing his first book of poetry.

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