Tracy Alloway and Jordan Ritter Conn: The Global Economic Shock from a Stupid War
The Bulwark Podcast
The Bulwark
4.6 • 11.6K Ratings
🗓️ 21 April 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Trump keeps jawboning the markets to try to manage the fallout from the war on Iran, but we have yet to see the full economic impact of his foreign policy misadventure. Oil and gas facilities in the Gulf have been critically damaged and will take years to repair—which will inevitably lead to higher fuel prices. And countries are stockpiling commodities and products like fertilizer, which will also feed inflation. Plus, a new book on the social and economic travails of modern American men.
The Ringer's Jordan Ritter Conn and Bloomberg's Tracy Alloway join Tim Miller.
show notes
- Jordan's new book, "American Men"
- Tracy's podcast, "Odd Lots"
- "Road from Raqqa," Jordan's book about two Syrian brothersÂ
- The NYT story on the Syrian billionaires and their business deals with the Trump familyÂ
- Jordan's reporting on the heartbeat of resistance in MinneapolisÂ
- Tickets for our Bulwark Live shows in San Diego and LA in May: TheBulwark.com/Events
- Get 20% off when you go to trustandwill.com/BULWARK
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the board podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. A few notes. We've got tickets on sale now for everybody for our live events at California, May 20th in San Diego, |
| 0:21.4 | May 21st in Los Angeles. I'm working on some fun stuff for you all. So please, |
| 0:27.7 | if you're in Southern California, come hang out. If you want to make a trip to beautiful |
| 0:31.3 | Southern California, what better time than May? I hope to see you all there. I've got a fun |
| 0:37.0 | double header for you today that are about a |
| 0:39.0 | couple niche topics. So if you just want straight politics, Trump porn, ew, that's gross, |
| 0:45.2 | but you know what I mean. The next level, always out on Tuesday nights. We're trying to make it |
| 0:49.9 | always out on Tuesday nights. So make sure to check that out in your podcast feed of choice. In |
| 0:56.0 | segment two, we've got Jordan Ritter-Con who's got a new book out, American Men. It's talking |
| 1:01.4 | about the travails of men in our culture right now. It's kind of bleak, but he's a great writer |
| 1:09.1 | and it's really sweet. So we're going to hash that out in segment two. But up first, she's the co-host of Bloomberg's Oddlots podcast, which I have been binging on because the news is horrible. And when the economic news is horrible, I always like to turn to my friends at Oddlots. It's Tracy Alloy. How you doing, girl? I'm good. Thanks. That's fine, by the way. We're used to people binge listening Odd Lots episodes when the world is falling apart. So all good. I kind of want to talk about the men, though. You want to talk about the men? Let's just talk about the men. Do you have thoughts about men and what's happening with the men? And it doesn't seem great. Yeah, a lot of The men can always be improved. That's what I say. Yeah, men need to be improved. It feels like a lot of times away from, you know, doing things that are fulfilling to their life and being in communion with other men. |
| 1:56.8 | And instead replacing that with a lot of time betting on... |
| 2:01.5 | Listening to podcast. |
| 2:03.3 | No, podcast is good. |
| 2:04.7 | That's fulfilling. |
| 2:05.3 | That's nourishing. |
| 2:06.3 | I'm talking about maybe, I don't know, gambling on what Donald Trump is going to say on |
| 2:11.6 | Squawk Box today. |
| 2:12.7 | Like whether Donald Trump is going to use the word Hormuz on squawk box today, gambling |
| 2:18.3 | on that. That doesn't, that seems less healthy. Yeah, I would say prediction markets are not a |
| 2:23.2 | substitute for a viable social network. So men should work on those, those relationships. |
| 2:28.5 | All right. They should. Thank you, Trancy. We're trying to model that here at the Bork podcast. |
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