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The Property Podcast

TPP212: How worried should you be about interest rates?

The Property Podcast

Rob Bence & Rob Dix

News, Investing, Education, Business, Business News

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2017

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Alastair prompted this week's podcast topic, and it's a very important one!  But what's been happening with The Robs this week? Rob D is putting the finishing touches to his new book which will be out on April 26th, we're all excited about this one as it is definitely needed. The Robs will also be at the Meetups tonight - Rob B is stand in leader in King's Cross, but Rob D has travelled to Scotland to our rebooted Edinburgh Meetup. It's not too late to get your ticket to your local Meetup, and remember, there's zero selling, just good honest property chat over a few drinks. Now on to this week's big topic - interest rates! A brief history of interest rates Long term average interest rates are around 5% In 1990 they peaked at 15% For the rest of the 1990s they were roughly between 6% and 7% In the early 2000s they were mostly between 4% and 5.5% In April 2009 they fell to 0.5% and stayed there until a further cut to 0.25% last year Why are rates so low? To promote consumer demand. You’re more likely to spend money if you get little return on saving it To boost asset prices, which increases willingness to spend To make it cheaper for companies to invest in growing If we’re being cynical, to make it cheaper for the government to service its own debts! How people misunderstand interest rates An increase in your mortgage from 2% to 3% doesn’t sound like much, but it’s a 50% increase If you borrow £200k at 2%, your monthly interest payment is £334 When it increases to 3%, the payment goes up to £500 This is what Alastair was referring to. It’s easy to make investments work when the finance is so cheap. But when it’s not so cheap, it’ll be much harder for investments to stack up The PRA rules will help for new investments because they get stress tested at 5.5% anyway Investors who’ve been on trackers since pre-crash and Owner-occupiers could find themselves in big trouble What happens if rates go back to double-digits? Unlikely because rates are set by BOE now Also, rates tend to rise to combat inflation. Inflation is the result of more demand than supply (roughly speaking), and we seem to be moving into an era of low demand demographically There’s been huge asset price inflation as a result of QE and low rates (hence demand for assets), but this hasn’t filtered down into the real world and seems unlikely to do so So there seems little prospect of rates getting really high. But they will go up from where they are now…  So how worried should we prepare for rates rising? Rises will be mitigated by banks lending at more competitive rates. With rates as low as they are now, they’re making more margin than they used to Stress-test up to at least 5% – you have to if you’re borrowing anyway If you’re sitting on properties that only cashflow because you’re on a very low rate, make plans to deal with that before rates rise again Conclusion Rates will rise from where they are, even if they don’t get up to double digits – and even when they were that high, it wasn’t for very long It will be harder to make investments add up so finding and adding value will be more important than ever Don’t kid yourself that this is normal! Plan for rates to be higher, then enjoy them while they’re so low   News story: Warren Buffet is also a shrewd property investor Billionaire Warren Buffet may not be known for his property investments but unsurprisingly he hasn't ignored property all together. He is well known for his long term approach to investment generally, and he's applied that same way of thinking to this property investment which has done amazingly well for him. Resource of the week “Back Again?” is a Chrome extension that tracks how many times you’ve visited a page each day. Good for helping you break habits or realise how addicted you are! Install it if you dare!  Continue the conversation over in the forum Do you worry about interest rates? What do you do to plan ahead for every eventuality? Let us know your take on this important subject and join the conversation over in the forum! If you enjoyed The Property Podcast, please leave a review on iTunes Reviews are really important in helping other people to find the show, so by way of thanks we read out every single review we receive on air. If you’d like to hear your name on the show, leave us a review on iTunes here. Not sure how to leave a review? This video shows you how to review and subscribe on iTunes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How worried should you be about interest rates?

0:03.0

Hmm, that implies that you should have some degree of worry.

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This week on the Property Podcast, we talk about interest rates.

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I'm Rob B with Rob D. Let's get started.

0:13.0

Yes, welcome to the podcast. It's going to be a good one.

0:18.0

It's going to be a gooden. It might seem like a bit of a dry economics kind of topic, but if you're thinking that I think you might be pleasantly surprised and even if you do find it a bit dry it's very important.

0:31.0

Interest is going to be the largest single cost for most

0:34.2

property investors therefore something you should know about and we're going to be

0:36.8

telling you everything you need to know over the course of this episode. We're also

0:40.9

going to be giving you a new story and a resource, all the usual good stuff.

0:44.0

But first, a quick mention that tonight is meet-up night.

0:48.0

It's the first Thursday of the month.

0:50.0

And when it's the first Thursday of the month, that means that property-loving people in 40 locations around the UK and beyond get together to have a drink and a chat and to share information.

1:00.4

If they don't get sold anything, they just do it because they love it.

1:04.0

So it's all happening tonight. Rob B is down standing in as the leader of the King's Cross meetup.

1:09.0

I'm up in Edinburgh for the rebooted meetup up here.

1:12.0

So if you'd like to get along to either of those or any of the 38 others,

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just go over to the Property Hub.

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Net slash meetups.

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Book your place.

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It's free. All you need to do is register and turn up, dead easy.

1:23.2

It is easy. Another thing that's easy Rob is writing a book. Oh no, that's not easy.

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