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Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children

TPP 303a: Dr. Joseph Lee Talks About the Importance of SEL / Social and Emotional Learning

Full-Tilt Parenting: Strategies, Insights, and Connection for Parents Raising Neurodivergent Children

Debbie Reber

Education, Kids & Family, Parenting

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Have you ever wondered if SEL (social and emotional learning) in school and classrooms really matters? I’ve been exploring this question a lot about over the past year, as well trying to understand the recent increase in parental and political pushback in the US specifically that is putting the future of SEL in schools at risk.   I wanted to get into a deep conversation about SEL for the show, and so I reached out Dr. Joseph Lee, a psychiatrist with a special interest in social and emotional learning and helping people achieve what he calls optimal mental healthiness. We had exactly the conversation I was hoping we would, as we got into so many important topics, including the state of children and young adult’s mental health today, demystifying what SEL or social emotional learning actually is, why SEL matters, how it’s best introduced in schools, the limitations in the current educational model for social emotional learning curriculums, what the pushback against SEL is really about, and what it’s at stake if our children aren’t provided with social and emotional learning opportunities. I think this is such an important and timely conversation – I hope that you enjoy it and that you help me amplify this episode by sharing it in your communities.   About Dr. Joseph Lee Dr. Joseph Lee, MD., is a Psychiatrist in private practice in Redondo Beach, California. He is also an educator in social and emotional learning (SEL) and provides individual and group supervision to licensed therapists looking to add mental healthiness and SEL principles to their own practices. Dr. Lee has a medical doctorate from University Of California, Los Angeles, School Of Medicine.   Key Takeaways Dr. Joseph Lee’s thoughts on the state of children and young adult’s mental health today What SEL or social emotional learning actually is and why it matters Ways that SEL can be weaved into traditional educational curriculum, as well as the use of specific SEL curriculum What social and emotional learning inside schools looks like in practice The “why” behind the pushback against SEL in the recent years and what’s it’s at stake if we lose the ability to teach SEL in classrooms  Resources Mentioned Mental Healthiness / Dr. Joseph Lee’s website Collaborative for Academic, Social, and Emotional Learning Dr. Joseph Lee & Mental Healthiness on Facebook Dr. Joseph Lee on Twitter Hiding in Plain Sight: Youth Mental Illness (Ken Burns documentary) Daniel Goleman Emotional Intelligence: Why it Can Matter More Than IQ by Daniel Goleman Social Intelligence: The New Science of Human Relationships by Daniel Goleman U.S. Surgeon General Issues Advisory on Youth Mental Health Crisis Further Exposed by COVID-19 Pandemic Parenting the New Teen with Dr. John Duffy (Tilt Parenting Podcast episode) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Debbie. For the month of March, Playback Friday episodes are focused on the complex

0:05.4

social lives of our kids. If your child is struggling to find their people, navigating tricky

0:11.0

peer dynamics, or just feeling out of step socially, these episodes from the archives are for you.

0:19.8

Welcome to Tilt Parenting, a podcast featuring interviews and conversations aimed at

0:24.7

inspiring, informing, and supporting parents raising differently wired kids. I'm your host,

0:30.4

Debbie Reber. One of the things I've been thinking a lot about over the past year is the

0:35.3

importance of SEL, or social and emotional learning in

0:39.2

classrooms, as well as a recent increase in parental and political pushback that is putting the

0:45.4

future of SCLs in schools at risk. I reached out to Dr. Joseph Lee, a psychiatrist with a special

0:51.8

interest in social and emotional learning and helping people

0:54.8

achieve what he calls optimal mental healthiness.

0:58.4

We got into so many important topics, including the state of children and young adults

1:03.8

mental health today, demystifying what SEL or social emotional learning actually is,

1:10.0

how it's best introduced in schools, what the pushback against SEL or social emotional learning actually is, how it's best introduced in schools,

1:12.2

what the pushback against SEL is really about, and what's at stake if our children aren't

1:18.1

provided with social and emotional learning opportunities. And a little bit more about my guest,

1:23.3

Joe is a psychiatrist in private practice in Redondo Beach, California. He's also an educator

1:29.1

in social and emotional learning and provides individual and group supervision to licensed

1:34.2

therapists looking to add mental healthiness and SEL principles to their own practices.

1:39.4

He has a medical doctorate from the University of California, Los Angeles School of Medicine. Thanks so much.

1:46.5

And here is my conversation with Dr. Joseph Lee about social and emotional learning.

1:56.4

Hey, Joe, welcome to the podcast. Hi, Debbie. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I am really looking forward to this conversation and so happy we are able to squeeze it into the summer season because I think it's a really important topic.

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