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Hey, I think we just dive into it.

We are here with Jonathan, J.P. Pekluda.

He is a pastor at Harris Creek in Waco, host of the Becoming Something podcast and his true claim to fame.

He is the number one all-time referer to the poor over. Welcome, JP, thanks

for coming on. I knew it. I knew it was number one. Yeah. And I still have nothing to show for it,

but that's okay. That's what, well, you get a, you get a look at Kathy and all her, her swag. And

that's a privilege. Somehow, Kathy got all of my gifts.

I don't even get it.

It doesn't make sense to me, but whatever.

Well, JP, you are our first guest, so bear with us as we fumble through whatever having a guest on this podcast looks like.

And we figured we'd lobby a softball.

We're going to talk about what is war.

What is it?

When is it war?

Yeah.

Listen, in my world, that is a softball.

You could have been like speaking in tongues or transubstantiation.

War, we'll take it.

So, Kathleen, why did we pick this?

Okay, we've been writing about the conflict in Iran.

When it first started, we spent not an insignificant amount of time talking about, can we call it a war?

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