Before we begin today's episode, I want to let you know that we will be doing something special

to mark the end of the year. The President's inbox will be answering questions from you

in a special holiday mailback. If you have a foreign policy question you want answered,

now is your chance. You can submit your questions by emailing us at tPI at cfr.org, preferably using the

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recording on the show. You can find all of these details about submitting a question in the

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Hi, podcast listeners. This is Esther Fain and I produce the president's inbox.

This week, we are replaying our TPI episode with Michelle Gavin, the Ralph Bunch Senior Fellow

for Africa Policy Studies here at CFR. Earlier this year, Jim sat down with Michelle to discuss the impact climate change

is having on the horn of Africa. Given that the 28th United Nations Climate Change Conference,

also known as COP28, starts on Thursday in Dubai, we thought this conversation would provide

a timely refresher for what's at stake. We hope you enjoy.

Welcome to the president's inbox, a CFR podcast about the foreign policy challenges facing the United States.

I'm Jim Lindsay, Director of Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations.

This week's topic is what climate change means for the

Horn of Africa. Today's episode is the third in a series of episodes on the president's inbox

that examine how climate change is affecting life, society, in conflict in different regions around the world.

The Carnegie Corporation of New York has made this special series possible.

With me to discuss the impact that climate change is having on the Horn of Africa is Michelle Gavin.

Michelle is the Ralph Bunch Senior Fellow for Africa Policy Studies at CFR. She served as

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