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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

"Toxic Taboos" with Jesse Singal

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Society & Culture, Education, Comedy Interviews, Comedy, Self-improvement

4.5905 Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2021

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

In the culture wars, Jesse Singal is either the world's supervillain or its superhero, depending on your point of view. His original Atlantic article is at https://bit.ly/3zZ9Msq and Jonathan Kay's article about the smear campaign against him is at https://bit.ly/3dgcShO. Jesse's new book, in real-world printed form, is "The Quick Fix".

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0:00.0

Sometimes, in our zeal to do the right thing, to believe the right ideas, to be on the correct side of history,

0:08.0

we actually end up doing more harm than good to the things we care about.

0:13.0

Innocent people get hit by stray bullets fired in the fights we started to protect them. They turn out to be collateral damage in a

0:23.4

culture war. Sometimes what's actually needed to restore sanity is less sloganeering, less certainty,

0:33.7

less picking of fights, less demonizing of different views, less storming of the ramparts,

0:39.6

and more humility, more conversations that are genuinely free from bullshit, from posturing,

0:45.8

conversations that are blunt and true, and sometimes, yes, just a little bit uncomfortable.

1:00.1

Music Uncomfortable. G'day, humans.

1:01.6

Fantastic chat for you today with an iconic gentleman or a notorious gentleman,

1:07.5

a man who is either a villain or a hero in the great 21st century saga of the

1:15.4

cancel culture wars, Jesse Single, to whom I'll get in just a moment. I'm currently in lockdown in

1:21.6

Sydney. Sydney is in its first full-scale lockdown of the city since the early days of the pandemic, really, since May

1:29.9

of last year. It's been more than 12 months that we've led fairly normal lives responding to

1:35.1

outbreaks of coronavirus from hotel quarantine with more targeted lockdowns and limited

1:41.5

ring fencing of suburbs and aggressive contact tracing and mass testing and all

1:46.0

those kinds of tricky epidemiological ingenuities but unfortunately this current outbreak because of

1:53.6

the delta strain of the virus it's so contagious that it was getting up ahead of the contact

1:59.0

traces so they put the city into lockdown for a couple of weeks and yet and yet i am a delighted young gentleman today i am over the moon

2:11.5

because at last what i've been banging my head against a brick wall calling for for at least eight months

2:20.6

now has come to pass, which is a recognition from the federal government of Australia that

2:26.6

remaining a hermit kingdom in perpetuity is not desirable or feasible. At a meeting this morning, the first meeting after the Prime

2:39.0

Minister got out of quarantine, it's a bit funny that the Prime Minister has to self-isolate

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