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DISGRACELAND

Townes Van Zandt: Dreaming Hit Songs, Detox, and Waiting Around to Die

DISGRACELAND

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Music, True Crime, Society & Culture

4.613.4K Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Country songwriter Townes Van Zandt was an incredible talent who toiled in obscurity. Most of his albums never sold more than a few thousand copies. Like his idol, Hank Williams, he was willing to push aside everything to chase the muse – everything but the bottle. And like Hank Williams, Townes Van Zandt's legend would only grow greater after his death.

This episode was originally published on January 23, 2025.

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0:00.0

Disgraceland is a production of Double Elvis.

0:03.0

This is a story about a songwriter, an incredible talent who toiled in obscurity.

0:23.0

He had a number one hit, but most people don't know his name.

0:27.0

He released a dozen albums during his lifetime.

0:30.0

None sold more than a few thousand copies.

0:33.1

He spent his entire career waiting to die,

0:36.3

knowing that he would only become a legend after

0:39.0

he was gone, just like his idol, Hank Williams.

0:43.3

Because just like Hank Williams, he lived in pain.

0:47.5

And also like Hank Williams, he sacrificed everything to chase the muse.

0:53.6

This is the story of Towns Van Zand,

0:57.3

a songwriter's songwriter who lived his art.

1:00.9

And his art was some of the saddest, most mournful songs ever committed to tape.

1:06.5

Songs that were so real and relatable and funny and fucked up

1:10.1

that they had a magical power

1:12.0

to make you feel better about your own fucked up life. Great music. Unlike that loop I played for you

1:19.3

at the top of the show, that wasn't great music. That was a preset loop from my Melotron called

1:25.5

Texas lighter fluid MK1.

1:29.3

I played you that loop because I can't afford the rights to Tony Braxton's Unbreak My Heart.

1:35.9

And why would I play you that specific slice of blistering heartbreak cheese could I afford it?

1:42.6

Because that was the number one song in America on January 1st, 1997.

1:49.0

And that was the day that Living on the Road finally killed Towns Van Zand, 44 years to the day after Hank Williams died under similar circumstances.

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