Hello and welcome to A Thousand Natural Shocks, A Bad With Money podcast.

I'm your host, Gabe S. Dunn.

And this week we have Zach Williams, who works in public health.

And we get into everything that crosses over with climate change and environmental justice.

So refugee resettlement, fracking, LGBTQ, youth who might need to survive during a heat wave if they are unhoused,

just everything that we talk about on this show and everything that progressives are working on and towards

has to do with climate change in some way.

We get into my personal fear, which is Trump disbanding or defunding or de-incentivizing

organizations like the National Weather Service, the CDC, even the FAA, which we don't really talk about in this,

but is something that I worry about a lot in terms of the ability to not fly into a hurricane.

We also talk about what sort of weather conditions and issues are going to finally wake us up to the fact that this is a rich

versus poor issue and not a red versus blue issue. So please enjoy my conversation with

Zach Williams. He is incredibly articulate and incredibly smart. And this is one of my favorite

interviews in terms of explaining everything and concisely putting together

thoughts in my head that have just been like, we're all going to burn and turn into a Mad Max

future. As you heard, I spent a couple weeks ago some time in nature and it was really beautiful

and I cannot stress enough how important

that is for your mental health. And I know it sounds like beating a drum that you guys have

heard forever. But it was really, really good to see some greenery. So please enjoy. You got told a lot of lies about achievement.

They called you when they got you to believe it, thumb and finger held to their foreheads in an

L ship trapped in a capital of salescape. Let's fly back in have some talks about class

and the massive costs of the disasters, blocks of fascists, and Nazis, and Nazis, bad cats, and fox.

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