Hello and welcome to the TIFO football podcast. I'm Joe Devine. And today I'm delighted to be

joined by John McKenzie. Hello, Joe. You're wearing a lovely brown t-shirt today. Do you like it?

Not really. Yeah, I have a few of these t-shirts and you often say that you don't like them.

I've never said that before about any of your club. You have one of them is light to blue and you said, oh, that just doesn't suit you that colour. I just look, I've been looking at your t-shirt for the last hour or so and thinking, why would anyone buy a t-shirt that color? Well, I bought a set of five because Chris Hamill ground me down because Chris Hamill doesn't like t-shirts which have anything on Chris Hamill is your manager here and so when you're filming he insists that you have plain teachers

Yeah he doesn't like t-shirts which have anything on them. Chris Hamill is your manager here. And so when you're filming, he insists that you have plain T-shirts. Yeah, he doesn't trust our audience to be able to distinguish between anything written on the T-shirt and the subtitles. John McKenzie, they're the kind of man who would buy a multi-pack of plain T-shirts. Just to get my manager off my back. Either a multi-pack of plain t-shirt or some incredibly niche J-League merch.

Yeah. Just to get my manager off my back. Either a multi-pack of plain T-shirt or some incredibly niche J-League merch in the 90s. The Kawasaki Frontal, the way training top. There we are. There he is. It's Jack Pitt Brooke. Hey, John. How's it going to, you right? John, I just called John. Hey, Jack. How are you? Head's gone. There are a lot of J names in the studio. Too many. I would say two. Yeah, one or two, too many, maybe. Because, of course, we're also joined. And this is a TIFO podcast debut for the former editor of The Guardian Longreides and one of the founders of the new magazine Equator. Hello. Equator. Can I say it like that?

Equator.

It's Jonathan Shainan. Hello. Everybody, how's it going? We need to do a couple for a debut. Debute. Yeah. I'm going to get a squad like a number like the, you know, 981 or something like that. We'll see how the comments received you. I think he might be the oldest debut time we've had. What's your age?

What's your decade?

Surely it's not 50s. No, no. I was going to just double checking. My parents were born in the 50. No, I meant I'm not 50. No, I was born in, I was born in 1978. How about that? Yeah, I'll let people do the math there. Okay, they can do the math.

Yeah, I got it.

Anyway, it was like, oh yeah, so I was going to say, I saved this for the intro of this

podcast.

Your debut could have come a lot sooner, you know, because I met you at a wedding two years ago.

Indeed.

And I sent you a Twitter DM that you just ignored forever.

Yeah, that hurts.

That hurts. That hurts. He just ignored it forever. It was it was, it was, it was, it was, it was producer Nathan's. It was producer. By the way, not the first time that you, you stumbled over. I know, yeah. But it was, it was delightful every time. Well, it's very confusing speaking English. Anyway, what did we talk about on today's, oh, Steve Hankies here, also. I've been here the whole time. well, yeah, not quite the whole time. Now, what did we talk about on today's podcast Oh, Steve Hankies here also. I've been here the whole time. Well, yeah, not quite the whole time.

Now, what did we talk about on today's podcast?

Well, we examined the executive failure at Tottenham Hotspur following their near relegation

miss this season.

John starts talking about how to manage a good tea party.

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