Totalitarianism and Fantasies of the Sinless Man
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🗓️ 1 June 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everybody. This is James Lindsay and you are listening to New Discourse's Bullets, where I give a short bullet point-like summary of a single topic from Woke, |
| 0:19.1 | or relevant to Woke, that we need to understand so we can |
| 0:21.9 | defeat it and this is a i'm going to give you a big word today it's prelapsarianism i want to talk |
| 0:29.2 | about prelapsarianism and woke thinking the woke mentality is actually prelapsarian in a very |
| 0:36.6 | important way actually the mythologies of woke are prelapsarian in a very important way. Actually, the mythologies of woke are pre-lapsarian mythologies in some sense, |
| 0:42.3 | which I'm sure better theologians than I am can do something with. |
| 0:48.3 | And just by the by, yes, you're permitted to use my work and go do things with it. |
| 0:53.3 | That's why I put it out in public. It's for you to do that with. I get asked all the by. Yes, you're permitted to use my work and go do things with it. That's why I put it out |
| 0:54.8 | in public. It's for you to do that with. I get asked all the time. No, go, do. Yes, please. Okay, |
| 1:01.0 | so what does prelapsarian mean? Prelapsarian refers, theoretically, to the time before the fall. |
| 1:15.6 | So, in particular, it is the innocence of man in his original state. He has been created in the garden, so he exists, and he has not yet fallen. |
| 1:22.6 | So he is in his prelapsarian, before he lapsed in his judgment, his pre-lapsarian state. |
| 1:31.9 | Okay, so that period of time, if you will, from Genesis 2 to Genesis 3 is the pre-lapsarian period. |
| 1:43.4 | It doesn't last very long in the Bible. So pre-lapsarian man |
| 1:48.1 | refers to Adam and Eve before they ate from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and |
| 1:54.2 | evil, and thus disobeyed God, and thus were cast out of the garden. So what am I talking about with woke being a pre-lapsarian fantasy |
| 2:04.2 | or a pre-lapsarian style of ideology? In fact, it's idealism, it's negative idealism, as I've |
| 2:10.3 | talked about in the past, really attaches to these pre-lapsarian fantasies. Now, I've talked about this |
| 2:16.3 | in other places and other times as being |
| 2:19.2 | connected to the old philosophical nuggets called state of nature arguments, which were very, |
| 2:27.0 | very popular, by the way, in the 18th century, in the 19th century, especially 18th. So the idea was to ask the question of who is man outside |
| 2:39.1 | of this thing we call civilization? If man was reduced again to his state of nature, or if we were |
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