Tory Immigration crackdown, plus Ben Rhodes on following the Queen into the toilet

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News, News Commentary, Government

4.6 • 1.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 December 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

It’s been a big week in the Tories’ war on foreigners. While efforts to resuscitate the Rwanda plan continue, Nish and Coco pick over the Government’s five-point plan to reduce legal immigration. For Nish, these are measures produced by people who clearly have no lived experience of relying on the NHS or on social care. Coco points out the cruelty of minimum income plans that could split families up, and also discriminate against women.

Former National Security Adviser to Obama, and co-host of Pod Save the World, Ben Rhodes, joins us to give us the American view on Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer. As someone who’s been in the room with Benjamin Netenyahu, Ben gives us his take on the Israel Gaza crisis, and reflections on the stance taken by the UK and the US as the situation worsens. Plus, don’t miss a glorious anecdote that takes in the twin British obsessions of royalty and toilets!

Nish’s Hero of the week salutes MPs and campaigners who defeated the Government on compensation for people affected by the contaminated blood scandal. While Coco’s villain is a building contractor whose shoddy workmanship means kids are having to do their lessons in tents. Plus we want your nominations for ‘the political moment of the year’ - good or bad - email them to PSUK@reducedlistening.co.uk

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Ben Rhodes, co-host of Pod Save the World, and former White House Deputy National Security Adviser

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hi, this is Potseh of the UK. I'm Coco Carr. And I'm Nishkumar. And this week, we're saving
0:15.9	the UK from a five-point plan that hates foreigners. And asking if Starman Reeves is shaping
0:20.7	up to be an Osborne Cameron tribute act. Plus, our guest is a man who's been in the
0:24.4	room where it happens. Former White House National Security Advisor and co-host of
0:28.5	Potseh of the World, Ben Rhodes.
0:34.5	Hey, Nish, how's your week been? My week's been absolutely fine, Coco. I DJed again.
0:38.7	Oh, did you? Yeah, I DJed again. What did you play?
0:41.2	Just sweet Caroline. No, so I, I code DJ to set up my friend's
0:45.7	Stephen Mines wedding, which was a wonderful, wonderful evening, a lovely time.
0:49.7	What sort of songs are we playing here? Well, I was DJing with my friend Ed Gamble,
0:56.0	and he and I have diametrically opposed music. He's put your hands up for Detroit,
1:00.3	and you're like, no, hands in my pocket, we're listening to pavement.
1:02.6	No, no, no. He's, I'm Beyoncé, and he's bee-rockin. Oh, really?
1:10.8	So it was an interesting and uneasy coalition on paper, but actually it worked amazingly.
1:16.9	I would say we met each other in the middle, and we aimed to please the majority of
1:21.2	the audience. You know, we went from pretty far from a white guy to Beyoncé.
1:25.3	We covered all of the polls. We went from I believe in a thing called love by the darkness
1:29.2	to one thing by Amary. The one thing I would say is that if you looked at the songs,
1:32.8	you would be able to guess to the day, the age of the two men involved.
1:36.0	But obviously his name is Ed Gamble. My name is Nish Kumar.
1:38.8	Our DJ name, Child Nish Gamblino. Okay, good mouthful, though. That one, isn't it?
1:44.4	Child Nish Gamblino. I have to say, I mean, it's not a competition,
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