Hello and welcome to PodSafe the UK. I'm Coco Khan and Nish is still away. He's filming,

he'll be back next week, but it gives me an opportunity to make a new friend.

So here to help me out this week is political commentator, journalist and internet big

name on campus. It's Fermi Oluwale. Hello, you may be more familiar with him listeners

as Fermi at Fermi underscore sorry, but hi, welcome to the show. Hi Coco, yeah, my

number is Fermi underscore sorry, on the BBC they actually called me, Fermi sorry, because

they thought that was my actual last name. But I do have to ask you why are you Fermi

sorry? Because I tend to just say logical things and that can wrap people the wrong way.

So I figured the safest thing to do is to have an inbuilt apology to everything that

I say. It saves an apology videos. I'll be honest, I think the fact that it's already

in the hashtag kind of undermines the feeling of apology. You know, I mean, I'm not actually

sorry. I honestly, I was saying to the producers, I thought it was because it was more like

a sort of sassy, it's Britney bitch, it's Fermi, sorry, sorry, if you can't handle a

heat, sorry, if you can't take it. You know what I mean? I'm not that cool. Oh, look,

welcome to the show. We're in the middle of party conference season. I actually mentioned

in last week's episode that I'd never been to one before and I'm with a veteran of party

conferences right now. How's York? How's your conservative party conference been?

Yeah, veteran. I've done in like six of these things. I hate them. It's just like being

around the actual worst people in the country and knowing that they've all just gathered

together in one concentration. It's painful. This year was interesting because they know

they're going to lose. And so it's just, there's that sombre element, but also this like

cat and rats in a bag sort of element of it's coming climb over each other to become

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