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John de Vander-Ark testified in her own defense facing child abuse and murder charges

in the death of her 15- old son Timothy who had special needs.

Prosecutors said that she and her older son Paul tortured and starved Timothy who weighed only 69 pounds when he died.

On this week's court TV podcast you'll hear Shonda face an intense cross-examination

featuring many noteworthy moments

including when Shonda becomes violently ill on the witness stand

after prosecutor Matt Roberts places a photo of an emaciated Timothy in front of her.

Have a listen.

This is the Court TV Podcast with Vinny Polytan.

Alright, you may be seated. Mr. Robbins, you can begin your cross-examination.

Oh, actually, recall.

Yeah, sorry. How to do that?

Ms. Vanarck.

All you reminded you are still under oath.

Yes, sir.

Go ahead, Mr. Good afternoon, Ms. Van der Auk.

Now, Mr. Johnson kind of tried to shortchange her a little bit earlier in his direct examination

when he wanted to talk about your background, your schooling.

Remind the jury again of your educational background?

I have a Bachelor of Science degree, Magna Cum Laude, and then I also have a Juris Doctor,

a law degree that I graduated Magna Cum Laude, second of my class.

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