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The Owen Jones Podcast

Tories Seek To Exploit Omicron

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Politics, Government, News & Politics, News

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2021

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

As a Tory Cabinet minister tells the Times newspaper that the Omicron crisis puts the government in a "Remarkable position" and "should put us in a good place for the new year", we look carefully at the facts - what do we know, how bad is it, and how do we avoid another lockdown?


We are joined by Prof. Deenan Pillay from University College London.


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0:00.0

Yes, he's back. COVID is back with inventions. We didn't show

0:12.8

after show about COVID for a very long time for very obvious reasons

0:16.0

because we were in the midst of a terrible pandemic because of

0:18.9

course, never went away. And perhaps the fact that people

0:22.1

included myself didn't do more shows for many weeks was a sign of a

0:28.4

broader complacency. Omicron is, of course, something

0:33.4

and words experts about the Greek alphabet, obviously,

0:36.8

more than familiar with, but a week and a half ago, none of us

0:39.6

obviously knew what Omicron was about. And now it's, of course,

0:42.8

going to define news events for the coming weeks and months

0:46.5

in all likelihood. We've got a great show today, which is going to unpack

0:51.5

exactly where things start with Omicron. How serious a threat is it?

0:56.9

What's the data telling us at the moment? You know, what kind of

1:02.0

measures should be taken? Are we going to head for some sort of

1:05.5

lockdown? Now it's interesting. The polling consistently has

1:09.0

throughout much of the crisis shown the public a quite hard line of very

1:12.3

pro lockdown. That isn't the case at the moment at all.

1:15.8

People are very weary about obviously the very authoritarian measures

1:19.5

that have been necessary to protect public health. But nonetheless, at

1:23.5

the moment, there isn't public support for lockdown according to the

1:26.1

polling, but of course that could change if the data changes and Omicron

1:30.2

represents a genuine threat here. But we're going to talk about that

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