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Hi everybody, my name is Debbie D'S and I'm an alcoholistee. I know my Icelandic needs work, so we've heard two people share about their experiences the way they do things, the way things work for them on our first nine steps. I've been asked to talk about 10, 11, and 12 today.

And I have, I don't know about you, but I have just absolutely enjoyed hearing both Hector and

Steve and I've learned so much about that and when I hear people I love hearing

about steps and and their experiences because I I learned so, oh, I like that or I never thought of it like that.

And it helps me to keep open-minded.

I've been sober 28 plus years and I have listened to lots and lots of people over the years

and gently, gradually you just sort of seem to find what works for you. I've heard both of them talk about

they tried this for a while and then they tried that for a while and they worked with others

like this for a while. So they there just for me hasn't been a hard

fast all the time this is the only way to do it and if I think that way I think I

miss out. So I too have you know had my undulations and soft changes and things that I find

effective and don't seem to work as well anymore as something else.

And so I personally have taken the steps, I would say officially two and a half times.

Now I say two and a half because the first time I went through the steps

was in a treatment center.

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