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Rick, I'll call it.

Hi, Ray.

Dustin asked me to do this on roadblocks to recovery, and he probably is aware that I had a few.

You know, there's a lot of things.

You know, you could talk, boy, a great length on this one.

This is not a tough topic.

I mean, there's just so much.

You know, some of the things that happened to me early on,

I'll tell you some stories about things that have been my experience.

And some of the opposite, too, that's happened because of bumping into some of this stuff.

You know, one of the things, one of the first things that I was starting to think about this that I looked at,

and one of the things that happened to me early on was I got too smart.

That's a real easy trap to fall into.

You know, you think you know something.

You read the literature, you get smart, and you think that it's, I really thought that I was going to learn things and then go out and I would I would give

my wisdom to everyone else see and and so I did a little of that and I can tell you it isn't met

with a kind response most of the time it pisses people off to put it mildly and you end up in

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