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Welcome back, folks.

I continue my conversation with Tofer Field.

So Tofer, we're talking about many things, but at the heart of what we're discussing is

what is self-government, what is freedom. I wrote a book called If You Can Keep It. And when I

wrote that book, for the first time in my life, I'm embarrassed to say, I understood what American

style self-government is, what the founders had in mind, and how it was inevitably

predicated on what John Adams called, you know, a virtuous and moral populace. If you do not

have people who understand these things, who govern themselves, you cannot have self-government.

In other words, there's no way that this works unless people get it and live it out.

And Lincoln, in his 1838 speech to the Young Men's Lyceum in Springfield, Illinois, the very

young Lincoln understood this brilliantly.

He understood that.

I mean, he was alive at a time when there were people who remembered the revolution.

They remembered what that was to go to war with tyranny.

They understood that.

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