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Welcome back, folks.

I continue my conversation with Tofer Fields.

So, Tofer, we're talking about many things, but at the heart of what we're discussing

is what is self-government, what is freedom. I wrote a book called If You Can Keep It, and when I wrote that book, for the first time in my life I'm embarrassed to say I understood what American style self-government is what the founders had in mind and how it was inevitably predicated on what John

Adams called a virtuous and moral populace. If you do not have people who understand these things

who govern themselves, you cannot have self-government.

In other words, there's no way that this works unless people get it and live it out.

And Lincoln, in his 1838 speech to the Young Men's Lyceum in Springfield, Illinois. The very young Lincoln understood this brilliantly. He understood that. I mean, he was alive at a time when there were people who remembered the revolution.

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