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Vincent Ayello, and as most of you know, May here on the show is Top Gun Month. We're talking all

things, Top Gun, the Navy Fighter Weapon School, and Top Gun, the Blockbuster movie, in preparation

for the long-awaited sequel now just days away. Well, in that spirit, it seemed fitting to revisit

one of our earliest episodes from back in 2018, our first year of podcasting. It's episode seven,

cleverly titled Top Gun versus Top Gun, and it pitted the school versus the original movie,

and it featured my good friend and fishing buddy Andy Mariner, who returns to the show to help us

revisit the topic. Hello, Grant. Welcome back. Great to be back, Charles. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, sure, man. So, hey, tell you what, we want to know what's new with you and Top Gun, the

institution. I mean, it's been five years since we recorded, but tell you what, let's play the

interview and then we'll circle back and get caught up and fill in some details. What do you say?

Sounds good to me. Let's do it. Okay, today on the Fighter Pilot podcast, I'm joined by my very

good friend, Commander Andy Mariner, the United States Navy, calls on Grant. Grant, welcome to the show,

buddy. Sheldon, thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Awesome. Well, hey, before we get to the subject

at hand, listeners need to get to know you. Give us a little background on yourself if you would.

So, I was actually born in Fargo, North Dakota, probably wondering why I joined the Navy being so far

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