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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Top Senate Democrat: Trump’s HHS Secy. RFK Jr. ‘must be fired immediately'

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

NBC News

Policy, Msnbc, Politics, President, Washington, Congress, Government, Senate, News

4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: RFK Jr.’s anti-science policy triggers CDC resignations. Also, two children are dead and 17 people are injured in a mass shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic school. Plus, a Trump-appointed federal judge excoriates the Trump Justice Department in a scathing new ruling. And an Iowa Democrat flips a long-held GOP state Senate seat. Dr. Ashish Jha, Rep. Ro Khanna, Rep. Maxwell Frost, J. Michael Luttig, and Iowa state Senator-elect Catelin Drey join Ali Velshi.

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0:00.0

The last word starts right now with Ali Velshi.

0:03.5

Once again, in for Lawrence.

0:04.9

Hey, Allie.

0:05.9

Jen, I often jokingly say that your work keeps me from doing mine as I prep for the show, but your show was something else tonight.

0:14.1

I hope everybody saw it.

0:15.5

I will be playing some of your monologue in this show just to remind people how they need to think about these

0:21.0

things, because you and I in different roles have seen too much of this and been involved

0:27.1

into any of them, and you're right. Here we are again. This is another one, and we say lots of

0:31.7

things, and we still have these. And if you think of yourself the way you have tonight as a parent

0:37.0

of an innocent child,

0:39.1

two innocent children who died praying in church. That's exactly what happened. And, Allie,

0:46.2

one of the many things I admire about you, you know so much about everything, almost anything.

0:50.8

This is why people love watching your show, but you are a deeply empathetic human

0:54.6

being, too. And we are human beings who are also trying to share what's happening. And

1:00.1

sometimes it hits you. And sometimes it's a compilation of things. But this is one of those things.

1:05.7

I hope you're able to get some peace and some rest tonight. Thank you so much, Charlie.

1:11.1

Well, we have a lot of breaking news tonight.

1:12.8

Less than a week after Donald Trump's targeting of a Federal Reserve Board member,

1:16.2

a couple of weeks after the firing of the agency that counts the monthly job numbers,

1:20.7

tonight the Trump administration's push to reshape public health is triggering mass resignations

1:25.3

at the Centers for Disease Control.

1:29.2

It's so serious that moments ago, the Democratic Senator Patty Murray put out a statement saying that HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr.

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