Top Podcast of 2025 - TIL 520: Does the Body Keep the Score (feat. Francine Tan)
Truth in Love
Association of Certified Biblical Counselors
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 29 December 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | The top podcast of 2025 on this edition of Truth and Love. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm Bill Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, |
| 0:16.2 | where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face. |
| 0:20.3 | This week, we remember the number one podcast of 2025. |
| 0:25.3 | Does the Body Keep the Score by Francine Tan? |
| 0:28.7 | This is Truth in Love, episode 520 that we're remembering, |
| 0:32.6 | and as so many of you were interested in this particular podcast, |
| 0:36.5 | we're going to revisit this very important |
| 0:39.5 | topic in our movement right now, and we want you to listen in again to Francine Tan and I discuss, |
| 0:47.4 | does the body keep the score? I hope you'll enjoy this top podcast of 2025. Today on the podcast, |
| 0:53.4 | I have with me, Dr. Francine Tan. |
| 0:55.2 | She's a biblical counselor from Malaysia. |
| 0:57.3 | She's been certified with ACBC since 2021. |
| 1:00.8 | She has a BA from UCLA, her Master of Arts in Biblical Counseling from the |
| 1:04.9 | Master's University. |
| 1:06.0 | And she graduated recently with a Ph.D. |
| 1:08.5 | in Applied Theology, which is focused in biblical counseling from |
| 1:11.9 | Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. And I'm so delighted that she's here with me. She also |
| 1:16.7 | works for ACBC. She's a member of Mission Road Bible Church in Kansas City. Francine, it's good to |
| 1:22.3 | have you again today. We're going to talk today about Bessel van der Kololt. And I'm delighted that you're here. |
| 1:28.2 | You've just written a dissertation on this topic. |
| 1:30.4 | And honestly, it was hard for us to narrow down a couple of ideas. |
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