Hey, it's Liz Kelly and welcome to the Ringer Podcast Network.

Season 8 of Game of Thrones begins this Sunday,

which means Binge Mode Game of Thrones makes its long-awaited return,

with your resident experts Mallory Rubin and Jason Concepcion guiding you through each episode.

And to get your fix every Sunday night,

Chris Ryan joins Mallory and Jason on Talk the Thrones,

a Twitter after show recapping each episode throughout the season.

So make sure you check out the Binge Mode podcast on Apple or Spotify,

talk the Thrones on Twitter, and for even more Thrones coverage,

you can head to theringer.com.

I'm Sean Fantasy Editor and Chief of the Ringer,

and this is the big picture, a conversation show with some of the most interesting filmmakers,

and would-be rock stars in the world.

I'm joined today by a few guests, in the second half of the show.

I will be chatting with Elizabeth Moss,

the very famous and accomplished and brilliant actress,

and the director, Alex Ross Perry, they have collaborated on a new film called Her Smell,

which is about a fictional rock star, an imbecky-something,

who exists in that kind of Courtney Love-esque,

mid-to-late 90s era of rock and roll.

It's a fascinating, deep, complicated, emotionally troubling film that I would highly recommend.

But first, we're going to talk about other rock star films.

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