Welcome to For Your Amusement, a theme park podcast that aims to exhaustively evaluate the world's most popular theme park attractions to determine if they are world class.

I'm Ryan Bergara. I'm Byron Morin. And for today's episode, we're ranking the top 10 theme park illusions. And joining us is something of an illusionist himself, as

William Defoe would say. Fellow theme park content creator and Sikko, Zach Wally, honored to have

you on the show. Thanks for coming in. Hey, thank you so much for having me. I am a big fan of the

podcast. I've been listening since episode one, the Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway One.

Wow. Yeah, it's kind of surreal to be hanging out with you guys. We're a fan of yours as well. It felt extremely fitting to have a master at this type of crap kind of jump into our silly little teaky set virtually, of course. Perhaps an illusion of Zach Wall. I don't even know if we're,

are we interacting with the real Zach Wall? Who knows? I mean, you're the, you by far have have the best background of any guest who's ever been on this show. That shit is immaculate. Oh my gosh. Wow. That is quite the compliment. Thank you so much. It's my haunted mansion themed office. So I'm trying, you know, to make it feel as immersive as possible with lighting and all that. I wish I had the hands-on skills that you have, just that any, all the stuff that you already display in your videos and even just the backdrop. Of course, it's going to be immaculate. And also, yeah, thanks for watching the show. It's always crazy to me when I'm a fan of somebody and then I find out that they're a fan of the show. It's like kind of the Spider-Man meme. I've been watching Ghost Files forever. My wife introduced me to when it was unsolved, when it was the Unsolved Mystery stuff. And yeah, you and Shane, we've been watching you guys for a long time. And Byron, I actually have a question for you really

quick. Oh dear. Do you, do you know that we've met before? Do you know we've met in person?

Was it near the entrance of Adventureland slash like Frontierland or yes. Yes. I do remember.

Yes. Wait. What? Yeah. Look at that. That's January 2024 right there. Oh my God. Wait, was that before you had started making videos? I hadn't really done any social media stuff yet. I was just a fan of four-year amusement. And I was like, Byron, I watch your stuff. I never brought it up to you because I often thought about that where I was like, is this the same Zach that I met like back in the day?

That's so funny.

I can understand how that would be confusing just because, yeah, I wasn't doing social media back then.

It's crazy to like I was just talking to somebody last, because we are fan fest last

nights at the time of last nights, last night at the time of this recording.

And one of my favorite things about the show is that like basically every guest we have on is just a collection of people I'm a fan of.

Because before we made four year amusement, I was an avid theme park content consumer.

And so like I basically when we started the show, I was like, I'm going to reach out to all the people who stuff I like.

And that's basically what the show has been.

It's an excuse for me to hang out with people I admire. So your videos, if you haven't checked out Zach's channel, just a big time plug here up top, you're really going above me on to recreate some of these theme park illusions in a DIY way that nobody is doing on YouTube at this moment. And it's such a fun way to learn about how these come to life. Yeah, and it's one thing to learn the secrets, but then to see somebody recreate them with such exhaustive detail

is so remarkable and admirable. I'm a big fan of your stuff. So really happy to have you here.

When did this marriage of craftsmanship slash like love of theme parks like happen?

Like when did you start getting into this stuff?

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