Oh my gosh, hi. I'm Dave Holmes. Welcome to Troubled Waters, the show that treats popular culture

as the most important kind of culture because it's the kind of culture that has game shows in it.

It's the best. To this end, Troubled Waters will pit a pair of entertainers against each other

in a pop culture battle to the ego death. Now, this is a very special episode because the Tony Awards

are right around the corner.

It's Broadway's favorite night to congratulate itself and give unhinged acceptance speeches.

But anyway, there's nothing that the creative team of this show can agree on more than the love of musical theater.

So this is going to be an all-musical episode.

That means each of our rounds will include music in one way or another.

Does that mean I will sing? I'm afraid it does.

To win this battle, each guest will be called upon to use their smarts, their rhetorical skills, their MFA's in musical theater,

to earn the coveted Troubled Waters title Pundit Amaritus,

which will automatically give their opinion on which Tony's speech in history was the best.

I say Alice Ripley for, I think it was next to normal a few years ago.

More weight than a civilians. You are listening to Troubled Waters. Let's meet our guest. Our first contestant is a comedian. Her album Off White will be out by the time you hear this. It is Cat Alvarado. Hello, Cat. Hello, thanks for

having me on. So good to have you. How are you today? Oh, I'm fantastic. I was actually

just in New York. You're talking about the Tony's, the musicals, and I didn't see any musicals. So

what is wrong? What the hell is wrong with you? What did you do?

Oh, I met all my boyfriend's family.

Ugh.

Oh, dumb.

How was that?

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