Well, hello, everyone. I'm James Dobson, and you're listening to Family Talk, a listener-supported

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Well, welcome back to Family Talk. I'm Richard Marsh. And on today's classic episode, we're

going to hear part two of Dr. James Dobson's conversation with his special guest, Mark

Hancock. They'll continue their conversation about Trail Life USA. They'll also discuss

the poor decisions the Boy Scouts of America have made, and how Trail Life can actually

help develop and nurture a boy's spiritual walk with the Lord through their program.

Mark Hancock is the CEO and founder of Trail Life USA, which has been in existence for

over 10 years now. To date, there are over 1,000 troops in all 50 states. Mark Hancock

decided to create this organization to give parents a Christian choice for boys to build

their faith and character in the beauty of the outdoors. Now let's join Dr. James Dobson

and a special guest, Mark Hancock, for today's edition of Family Talk.

Mark, I wish we could kind of summarize what we've said so far, because there are a lot

of people listening to us today who didn't hear the program last time. But the essence

of it is that Boy Scouts of America has been an operation for over 100 years, I guess,

long, long time. And it has kind of, in our view, lost its way because it was decidedly

Christian in the early days. But more recently, they have begun allowing homosexual boys

to become members that more importantly, they have allowed Scout Masters to take that

responsibility, even though they were themselves homosexual. And now transgendered boys have begun

taking their place there. And there are an awful lot of parents who are not comfortable

with that. Then the Scouting Organization, the BSA, has lost, how many boys?

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