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You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl.

Gabrielle Carteris has been fighting for workers' rights for decades.

No matter what industry you're in, Gabriel has some solid tips for finding your voice,

standing your ground, and supporting one another along the way. You won't want to miss this.

People really look to us as women who made it in a tricky time in the industry. And I'm not

really sure if it's that much different now. Yeah, I would imagine it's not.

Can you please help our listeners, no matter what industry they are in, stand up for themselves?

Let me ask you, in the negotiation process, right out of the gate, should women always ask for more money? What's the

smartest way to do that? Well, first of all, it depends what you want out of the negotiation.

And negotiation is not only about money. Right. So if you're saying that women are paid less than

men and that women should demand to be able to have equal pay,

equal pay, then I absolutely, but that's not always what a negotiation is about.

So there can be many things.

But yes, I think that it is very important.

And it's not just a woman, I think men should demand it as well.

But anybody who does commensurate work to somebody, yes, we should all be paid fairly.

And it shouldn't matter about our sex.

That this is a question for me is enraging.

I mean, it doesn't make sense to me at all.

If my work is really good, regardless of my sex, and this person's work

is really good, we should be paid. I don't want to have to go and have to make a deal. Yeah, it's ridiculous

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