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I'm hoping I'm able to get the age of 12

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Hello and welcome. Hello and welcome to the main episode record of Vogue and Amber, recording from you at the very ungodly hour of 8.13 in the evening time.

Roll it there, Rochene.

Go, go, Emil.

Poor Emma. I feel bad for Emma, but I have been up since 10 to 6, so I'm hitting a 15 hour a day here, babe.

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