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Black we have Deborah Saunders on today because I was decrying the media earlier. Of course,

I suppose I do that every day if I were to be honest, but I was too honest. I was tuning

into the Trump Aten channels yesterday your MSNBC and your CNN and they were leading with the Trump

story, Dujure, fire in the polster or having his rally but didn't do whatever, he is a

ad rumored to be thinking of leaving. Yeah, exactly. That sort of crap and not leading with

the and we're sending a thousand troops to Iran and we've got senators calling for military

action, which seems like a pretty big story to me. It just bothers me that we're so obsessed

with the daily Trump this and that and poll numbers 500 days out that we don't even cover

to that level of foreign policy story. Right. Never mind domestic policy and the gigantic

elephant in the room, which is debts and deficits is the fabulous Deborah J Saunders points

out in a recent piece for the Las Vegas reviewed journal. The headline is the deficit in media

questioning and I love the the first sentence trade secret. We in the news media often hate

the media too. Deborah J Saunders joins us now. Deborah, how are you? Hello, how are we today?

We are fine. Let's all join together and talk about how we hate the media. We hate the media.

I mean, some people don't know. People can go after certain news organization and they go

after Trump and he talks about fake news. The truth is we hate ourselves too. Look at other people

who do things that we really can't stand and it drives us nuts. Well, I love the example

you lead with. You're talking about the Peter G Peterson Foundation's annual summit

where CNN senior congressional respondent Manu Raju was interviewing Nancy Pelosi.

The topic was supposed to be fiscal sustainability. How did that go? Well, he hardly noticed

that there was a $22 trillion national debt and we have annual deficits now of a trillion

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