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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Tony Winner Michael R. Jackson on "A Strange Loop"

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Become a Useful Idiot for extended interviews and bonus content at http://usefulidiots.substack.com Michael R. Jackson had no idea that a monologue he wrote two decades ago would turn into a Broadway musical that would win countless awards, including a Tony and Pulitzer Prize. And when he criticized the political establishment, including Obama, he had no idea that Michelle Obama would be one of the countless celebrities who would flock to see the show. Nor did he imagine that Aaron Maté would fall in love with his musical and play it on loop. The musical A Strange Loop is about a Black, queer writer who has written a musical about a Black, queer writer and it’s all written by Michael R. Jackson, a Black, queer writer. Michael dishes on whether he would talk to Tucker Carlson if he came to his show, subverting the Broadway world while becoming a part of it, and how he wrote his Tony-and-Pulitzer-winning musical. Watch the interview then go see the show or listen online. And subscribe to hear the full interview where Michael talks about the culture war, racism on Broadway, and his next musical. Plus, Aaron calls Guardian journalist Mark Townsend, who recently named him the “most prolific spreader of disinformation” on Syria, to ask why he wasn’t contacted for the story. Townsend’s cowering response is a must hear. It’s all this, and more, on this week’s episode of Useful Idiots. Check it out. Hear our favorite songs from “A Strange Loop” "Intermission Song" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT_mLAYtUoI "We Wanna Know" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXR67aAABV4 "Inner White Girl" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6wra5JtEv4 "Memory Song" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5HUpqiqXo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRWwZaw63wA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gajJmGwp7Ew Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Useful Idiots. I'm one of your host Katie Alper. And I'm

0:08.4

aromantic. How are you Katie? It's hot. It's very hot. It's hot. It's

0:12.0

cooking, but not as hot as it is over for our friends in Europe.

0:16.6

Over the pond. Yeah. It's tough for now. Yeah. It's really

0:19.8

tough for now. Now people are just dying. That's the world we live

0:23.2

in. Yeah. And being in a proxy war with one of the world's top

0:27.7

energy producers also isn't helping either because now countries in

0:31.0

Europe have to ration energy and limit cooling and limit gas

0:36.6

consumption. So great. Great timing for a proxy war always.

0:39.5

It's great. Yeah. I mean, it's always a great time for proxy war,

0:42.1

but it's even especially good right now. Yeah. So just wait till

0:45.3

winter comes. It's going to be even better. Well, at least people

0:47.8

won't die of of heat. They'll just maybe die of hypothermia.

0:52.7

There we go. Yeah. God, this is such a dark world. We're living

0:56.0

in. It is. Well, we're here to lighten it up with this week's

0:59.3

for food groups. Yeah, for basic food groups. So for this week's

1:02.8

for basic food groups, we got I got Democrats suck. So this is

1:07.5

this is an interesting curve ball because you're going to be like,

1:09.6

why is this a Democrat suck? This sounds like we're public and

1:11.6

sucks. So let me just start reading from democracy now. Voters

1:14.7

went to the polls Tuesday for a primary election in Maryland

1:17.4

to trump back far right state legislator Dan Cox, one, the

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