I shot a Zell Rodney because at that moment in time in that split second when I made the decision to fire I felt that he posed a threat.

So I made the decision to fire. I felt that he posed a threat. What are we going in?

So I made the decision to shoot, and I continued to shoot until I perceived that he was no longer a threat.

And he slumped across the back seat.

What you have, what you have? I shot Errol Walker, a black man because he murdered a black woman and was in the process

of stabbing a black girl. No police officer makes the decision to shoot someone until immediately

before he actually pulls a trigger and I'm talking

fractions of a second. I think probably the most difficult thing for me was that I

knew I acted correctly. One chief's room intent he actually told me you're a political

embarrassment to the Metropolitan Police. Do you ever take a bird's eye look on

the whole thing and just say this is some kind of an economic prison.

You know you're absolutely right you know and the reality is the cops are just the guys

that are at the cold face. We weren't a social we weren't social services we were a police force. You're going to do. This week on the show we have Tony Long who is the retired veteran of the London

Metropolitan Police elite specialist firearms team. For 25 years he was

sent in to deal with terrorists, bad guys, drug

dealers and sometimes pull the trigger. In fact in Tony's career he shot five

people and killed three including a Zell Rodney for whom he was tried

but then acquitted of murder and we spoke to Tony about what it was like and what goes

through his mind in the two seconds he has to

determine whether to pull the trigger on a victim, how the brain plays tricks with

you, and how he felt the London Metropolitan Police really hung him out to dry and did not

protect the police that actually serve people every day and we talked really

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