Oh, ho, ho, ho, theology nerds.

This is Tripp, and you're listening to Homebrewed Christianity.

We're since the year of 2008.

We've been bringing you audiological goodness think podcast, bringing some of the wisest voices from the academy,

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Today, today we have a special, special visit from friend of the podcast, Senior Deacon extraordinaire Tony Jones.

That's right.

Tony is back on the podcast.

He was on recently.

We were hanging out talking, answering a bunch of questions people sent in.

And it really sent off a whole other round of questions.

A whole bunch of them connected to Christmas. So I said, Tony, let's get on. It gives us a reason to hang out. And then we're going to talk about Christmas. We're going to talk about it as progressive Christian ministers. How do we think about Christian Christmas? How do we process it? How do we understand it? How do we articulate it articulate, how we invite people into it, all that kind of stuff.

We're going to talk about Christmas, all right?

Now, here's the thing.

Here's the thing.

Tony and I get on, and we're going to talk about Christmas and such, and then he starts

interviewing me, asking me questions about my life, my family, what we're doing, our plans and stuff for the future

and all that, all that kind of stuff. So we didn't answer it quickly. And it seems like,

it seems like it's something worth sharing for the people that are really interested.

And I started to edit it. and started to take out things.

I thought, nah, nah,

let's just stick it at the end

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