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Hello, Homebrewed Christianity listeners.

This is Trips.

And today, you are about to get debacolicious.

And it was debaclelish.

That's right.

This is the audiologically delivered to your smart device version of the Great Debacle with Tony Jones and the theater of the wildness.

Just last week, we were in this exact location of the new headquarters of Holman, Christianity in Torrance, California, temporary and corporate.

But we got to sit down with Tony asking, did God kill Jesus?

And Pete, taking the side that Jesus killed God.

I was pretty, pretty zesty and pretty exciting.

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