Pastor John, you were recently in Memphis, Tennessee, speaking at the Kainos conference,

along with Tony Evans.

Any impressions or thoughts you want to share about the event or the movement or what

you heard there while you're in Memphis?

Yes, I want to celebrate the Kainos event and the Kainos movement.

I want to celebrate Tony Evans' message that he gave on April 16 in Memphis.

Those two things are just brimming right now in my heart.

Brian Lawrence is the lead pastor for Fellowship Memphis.

He was part of the church when it was founded.

2003, the game was a multi-ethnic church of disciples and disciple-makers in the old

south of Memphis, the very city where Martin Luther King was killed.

A kind of swimming against the stream, vision of multi-ethnic churches there and the kind

of movement wants to encourage pastors to grow those kinds of churches.

I think Brian's church has about 60 percent white and 4 percent black and other ethnicities

in the mix as well.

That's what the Kainos movement is and the event that was held there in Memphis.

I was a part of and Tony Evans came in and it was to encourage pastors to move.

By the way, I should mention that I was also happy because of loving this vision to be

a part of the book that I think was just recently released in the last week or two called

Letters 2, a Birmingham jail, a kind of response that Brian and John Perkins and I and others

responded to in that book so people might want to look at that.

All in all, I just want to celebrate what Brian's doing and encourage people to be aware

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