Hello, fellow law nerds. This is Jess and Imani with some breaking very tragic and sad, gutting, really, news.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died. And, you know, even though we were on a break and we were waiting for the start of the next Supreme Court term to come back and talk to you about what the future of the court holds,

we thought it important to gather around the mic and talk about, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg,

her legacy, what she meant to us, what the future of the court holds, and just to create a space, because I know a lot of you are upset right now.

We're both very upset right now, but we thought it important to at least create some sort of

something that would enable us to commiserate together, sort of like a big hug from us to you.

So without further ado, this is boom-lawyered.

Wow. This is going to be-lawyered. Wow.

This is going to be one to get through.

Yeah.

You know, I'm just going to come right out and say it that, you know, as a journalist, there are moments where you really just hope that you don't have to activate,

and this for me was really one of them.

Yeah.

When I heard the news on Twitter, my initial reaction was to thank Justice Ginsburg for the entirety of my career

because it is no small statement to say that I wouldn't have

gone into the law or have had the opportunity to even launch this podcast and develop a working

relationship and friendship with you, Amani, if it was not for being both inspired by her and the work that she did.

Yeah, I mean, that's such a key point because I feel like for us, our friendship was really

forged in the fire of so much of what she believed in and what she stood for.

And I know, you know, for me, I had my

frustrations with her as I would with any, you know, elderly white lady. You know, sometimes she got it wrong, you know, like she came out and criticized Colin Cape Eich at a time when she really should have just kept her mouth shut. But then, you know what she did? She came out and said, you know what? I really should have kept my mouth shut.

And, you know, that's just, you don and said, you know what? I really should have kept my mouth shut.

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