Tommy Robinson claims victory for Labour's immigration plan
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🗓️ 17 November 2025
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The Home Secretary is putting her new hardline immigration plans before parliament - saying if Labour doesn’t do something drastic then worse will come. The new policy includes returning asylum seekers to their home country once it’s deemed safe. And quadrupling the amount of time they will have to spend in the UK before earning indefinite leave to remain.
Some Labour MPs are already queuing up to call it "performative cruelty" and unworkable - but she’s found a fan in one Tommy Robinson who hailed the shifting of the Overton window in an unlikely weekend Tweet. Will that cheering send shivers down the spines of Labour MPs? And is the policy workable? Jon and Emily speak to the senior backbencher Stella Creasy about her concerns.
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| 0:00.0 | The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity. |
| 0:09.0 | This is a global player original podcast. |
| 0:12.4 | We must now go further. We need to reduce the numbers coming here illegally. |
| 0:17.8 | We need to remove more people who have no right to be here. We will always be a country |
| 0:23.7 | that gives sanctuary to those fleeing danger. But we must restore order and control. That's a video |
| 0:30.6 | that the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmoud has posted online. The soft music is hers, but the hard |
| 0:37.1 | message is unmistakable, and it's winning |
| 0:39.8 | new admirers. One of those was Tommy Robinson, who's written on X, the Overton window has |
| 0:47.1 | been obliterated, well-done patriots. Will Tommy Robinson and his Overton window be a deterrent |
| 0:53.9 | to asylum seekers, or will it just scare the hell out of Labour MPs? |
| 0:59.7 | Welcome to the Newsagents. |
| 1:05.8 | The Newsagents. It's John. It's Emily. |
| 1:08.8 | And after what must rank as one of the most dismal weeks |
| 1:12.3 | in a whole lot of dismal weeks for Kyr-Stama with the kind of leadership challenge that wasn't, |
| 1:17.3 | the U-turn on whether income tax would go up in the budget, I think Labor thought they could be |
| 1:22.1 | on the front foot this weekend with Shibana Mahmood's proposals to tighten the immigration system to curb illegal |
| 1:29.3 | immigration. She has unveiled a series of properly tough new measures and this includes making |
| 1:36.4 | refugee status temporary and quadrupling the length of time it takes to gain permanent status in |
| 1:43.3 | Britain from five years to 20. |
| 1:45.5 | So in other words, you don't get permanent status until you've been in the UK for 20 years. |
| 1:51.9 | And if you come from a country which has been deemed unsafe but is later qualified as safe, |
| 1:59.8 | you might be returned, whatever that does to your family status, your |
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