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The Good Fight

Tomiwa Owolade on What We Get Wrong About Race

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Tomiwa Owolade is a writer and author of the forthcoming book This is Not America: Why Black Lives in Britain Matter. In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Tomiwa Owolade discuss how some popular forms of anti-racist thinking can obscure which groups are struggling most; how Labour MP Diane Abbott’s response to an article of Owolade’s in The Guardian led to the Labour MP’s formal censure by her party; and what Americans can learn from Britain on issues of race (and Britons from America). This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: [email protected] Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John Taylor Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

And the And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

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Hello, my name is Tyler Sick. I am an assistant professor of politics at the University of Pineville and the author of an article recently published in persuasion called The Methods of Moynihan.

0:34.8

My article takes a deep dive into the political thought of former United States senator

0:39.6

and social critic Daniel Patrick Moynihan. For most of his career, Senator Moynihan was famous for his

0:46.2

forceful and seemingly contradictory political positions. He was at once critical of detente and President Reagan's

0:53.2

Beliaco's foreign policy, an advocate of welfare reform

0:57.2

who despise New Gringrich's contract with America,

1:00.4

a firm believer in equality of outcome who thought the great society to be a tremendous

1:05.1

failure.

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However, in seeing simply the contradictions of Moynihan, one misses the defining characteristics of his entire career.

1:14.0

He perfectly blended the very best of conservatism and liberalism.

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By this, I do not mean that some days he acted like a Republican and other days he acted like a

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Democrat. Moynihan's conservative liberalism went much deeper than this, fusing

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together a conservative disposition and a liberal political vision. That is to say that he possessed both a serious

1:37.1

appreciation of culture, prudence, and tradition, but an equal measure hope that the government can be used to alleviate the very worst of humanity's sufferings.

1:48.0

This unique combination of philosophic beliefs allowed Moynihan to see the problems of the 20th century differently, and he in

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turn better understood how to solve them.

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And I hope you take a look at my article so you can see his brilliance for yourself. Jeffrey Tyler's six piece called The Methods of Moynihan was published by Persuasion.

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To learn more about the community we're building at persuasion and to get similar articles directly into your inbox, head to

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Persuasion. community.

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My guest today is to Miwa O'Lade.

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