Tom Wheeler on the Need for Real Cybersecurity for 5G
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 3 September 2019
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
5G telecommunications networks are beginning to be rolled out in the United States and around the world. We've heard a lot about the national security concerns posed by Chinese companies like Huawei getting a foothold in 5G networks. We're told it is important to win the race to 5G, that China is aggressively deploying 5G technology, and that the United States and the West are lagging behind. But is this the right way to think about the security challenges posed by 5G? What would it really take to deploy 5G in ways that adequately address the cybersecurity concerns posed by this new technology?
Margaret Taylor sat down with former Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission and Brookings scholar Tom Wheeler, to discuss these issues and his new article on why 5G requires new approaches to cybersecurity.
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| 0:22.0 | rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.0 | You can't get much more explicit than an existential threat to the security of the nation. |
| 0:41.0 | What 5G does is to exacerbate all of the challenges that we have seen here to for in cybersecurity. |
| 0:50.0 | Because of the fact that it is an all software network, |
| 0:55.0 | because of the fact that there are no centralized choke points, |
| 0:59.0 | because of the fact that you've got tens of billions of devices for which cyber is not a priority attaching to them, |
| 1:09.0 | and because of the fact that you've got all these new applications using the devices and the network, |
| 1:16.0 | and the applications aren't built with cyber as a forethought either. |
| 1:22.0 | I'm Margaret Taylor and this is the LawFair podcast, September 3rd, 2019. |
| 1:28.0 | 5G telecommunications networks are beginning to be rolled out in the United States and around the world. |
| 1:35.0 | We've heard a lot about the national security concerns posed by Chinese companies like Huawei, |
| 1:41.0 | getting a foothold in 5G networks. |
| 1:43.0 | We're told it is important to win the race to 5G, |
| 1:47.0 | that China is aggressively deploying 5G technology, |
| 1:51.0 | and that the United States and the West are lagging behind. |
| 1:55.0 | But is this the right way to think about the security challenges posed by 5G? |
| 2:00.0 | What would it really take to deploy 5G in ways that adequately address the cyber security concerns posed by this new technology? |
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