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The Gist

Tom Ricks: "It's Shakespearean"

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2017

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

For Tom Ricks, the whiplash-inducing news of the past two weeks has been especially surreal. Ricks explains why he was stunned to see the National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster defend President Trump. Ricks is out with a new book about two of his heroes, Churchill and Orwell. Ricks writes the Best Defense blog for Foreign Policy magazine.  In the Spiel, Mike breaks down former CIA Director John Brennan's exchange with Rep. Trey Gowdy.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:03.4

It's Tuesday, May 23, 2017.

0:11.1

From slate, it's the gist, I'm Mike Pesca.

0:13.7

The ex-head of the CIA was on Capitol Hill today, testifying before the House Intelligence

0:18.8

Committee where he set flat out Russia quote, brazenly interfered with the 2016 election

0:25.5

process.

0:26.5

He told the House Republicans about it at the time.

0:29.9

He told the House Democrats about it at the time.

0:32.4

He even told the Russians about it.

0:34.4

Now, two of those three groups wanted him to shut up about it before the election.

0:39.0

And the one that thought he maybe should tell the Americans about it didn't control

0:42.9

Congress.

0:43.9

Oh, I should also be clear.

0:45.1

They also weren't the Russians.

0:46.5

You get what I'm saying?

0:47.5

Yeah.

0:48.5

In the spiel, I will break down Brennan's interesting exchange with Congressman Trey Gowdy.

0:53.4

Here's a preview.

0:54.9

Did you see evidence of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between Donald Trump and Russian

1:03.9

state actors?

1:06.9

I saw information intelligence that was worthy of investigation by the bureau to determine

1:11.8

whether or not such cooperation or conclusion was taking place.

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